TRANSCRIPT – IP0100 Introduction to Intersectional Psychology – 24 March 2025

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Hello, my name is Aurora

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Brown. I’m a Registered Counsellor

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in Cape Town, South Africa and host

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of the new podcast Intersectional

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Psychology. I believe

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that everyone deserves to live with

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their optimal mental health. So

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caring for mental health means

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caring about the factors impacting our

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mental health. The result?

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Lasting change and resilience,

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both in the counseling room and in the

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world. For

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example, working in under

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resourced communities, it often seems

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that the mental health challenges my

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clients face are caused,

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or at the very least

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exacerbated by factors

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beyond their control

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like poverty, racism,

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sexism, classism,

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homophobia. Transphobia,

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stigma, unemployment, lack of

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housing, lack of infrastructure, lack of

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access to healthcare. The list

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goes on, but. You get

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the idea.

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The conventional wisdom for councillors

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has been to teach clients

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coping strategies and to build

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their capacity to manage and live

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with these inequities and

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discrimination. But

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is that really enough?

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If we are caring for their mental health,

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shouldn’t we be addressing the

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intersecting systems of oppression that

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impact their mental health?

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Social justice is an essential

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dimension of cultural competence

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and ethical practice, which are

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critical for us all to remain

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effective and competitive in

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our changing multicultural societies.

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And for those of you in private practice

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who work predominantly with high income

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clients, it’s not only traditionally

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marginalized groups that suffer from

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social injustice.

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Women are still paid less for the same

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work as men, and women still

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bear the brunt of housework and

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child care. Older adults

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are all impacted by ageism.

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And men. Well, as Belle

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Hooks wrote in her 2004 book The

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World to Change, the

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first act of violence that patriarchy

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demands of males is not violence

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towards women. Instead,

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patriarchy demands of all males that

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they engage in acts of psychic self

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mutilation, that they kill off

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the emotional parts of themselves.

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If an individual is not successful in

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emotionally crippling himself. He

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can count on patriarchal men to

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enact rituals of power that will

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assault his self esteem.

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And thus men are facing a

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crisis of mental health.

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A crisis that is caused by centuries

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of capitalist and patriarchal

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structures that value

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competition over collaboration.

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That value comparison over camaraderie.

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Let’s say men don’t cry.

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These systems of oppression have taught

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all of us to measure success

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by whether we are ahead or

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behind of our peers.

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Capitalism and patriarchy are even

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built into social media algorithms.

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These algorithms taunt us with the best

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lives our contacts are

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living, convincing us that

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success is a 0 sum game,

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that only one person can be the

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winner. And that if

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others have more than us, then we are

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failing or falling short.

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And we all buy into that.

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We all perpetuate these systems.

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But it doesn’t have to be that way.

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To truly improve the quality of life for

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ourselves, our friends and

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family, and our clients,

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we have to dismantle the structures that

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place quantifiable value on

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human lives, saying this person

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is worth more than that person.

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Even in private practice,

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understanding the broader social systems

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affecting your clients can help you

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provide more effective therapy

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and deepen your connection with a lived

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experiences.

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Being aware of social justice could

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enable you to help clients overcome

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societal pressures contributing to

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anxiety and depression.

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Recognize privileged dynamics in

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therapeutic relationships.

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And improve your cultural competence and

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broaden your client bases.

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And for those of you. This

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idea of confronting systemic

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issues is not new.

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In fact, Doctor Martin Luther King

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Junior addressed it powerfully in

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a 1967 speechto the

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American Psychological Association

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just seven months before his

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assassination. His call

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to action is as powerful and

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relevant today as it was back

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then. Now, I

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obviously cannot fully embody the

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weight of Doctor King’s experiences

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or the voices of the black leaders who

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have fought so hard for justice and

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equity here in South Africa, the

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US, and around the world,

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But I do want to honor them.

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The following excerpt resonates deeply

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with a person with a purpose of this

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podcast to challenge systems of

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oppression and work towards

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justice in every area of life.

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With that in mind, here are Doctor

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King’s words.

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I am sure that we will recognize that

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there are some things in our society,

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some things in our world, to which we

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should never be adjusted.

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There are some things concerning which we

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must always be maladjusted

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if we are to be people of goodwill.

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We must never adjust ourselves to

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racial discrimination and racial

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segregation. We must

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never adjust ourselves to religious

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bigotry. We must

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never adjust ourselves to economic

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conditions that take necessities from the

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many to give luxuries to the few.

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We must never adjust ourselves to the

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madness of militarism and the

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self defeating effects of physical

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violence. Thus, it

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may well be that our world is in

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dire need of a new organization.

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The International Association for the

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advancement of creative

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maladjustment.

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Doctor King declared that through such

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creative maladjustment to systems of

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oppression, we may be able to

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emerge from the bleak and desolate

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midnight of man’s inhumanity to

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man into the bright and

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glittering Daybreak of Freedom

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and Justice.

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Doctor King’s call for creative

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maladjustment is the spirit that

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guides this podcast.

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By questioning systems of oppression and

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striving for justice, we

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aim to improve mental health outcomes for

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everyone. This

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podcast will also highlight how

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frameworks like Intersectionality

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can help us uncover hidden biases

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and better support our clients.

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We’ll cover topics like navigating

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cultural competence, decolonizing

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counselling in practice, applying an

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intersectional lens to common

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presenting complaints. And

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supporting marginalized clients

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alongside interviews with experts

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and people with lived experience at the

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juncture of psychology and social

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justice.

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And none of this would be possible

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without the work of people like black

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feminist and legal scholar Kimberly

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Crenshaw. While Crenshaw

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named interfectionality in

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1989, black feminists

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had been championing this idea for

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centuries, from Maria W

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Stewart and Sojourner Truth in the 19th

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century to the ANC Women’s

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League, the Kombahi River Collective

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bell hooks and our very own

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Puma de Naoga Krolla in more recent

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times. As a

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counselor, I’ve seen how overlapping

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systems of oppression like racism,

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sexism, and classism affect mental

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health. For mental health professionals,

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this podcast offers practical tools

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and insights to improve your practice

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and strengthen connections with diverse

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clients. You’ll also be able to

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earn CPD points from some episodes of the

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podcast. I’ll let you know whenever an

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accredited episode is coming up.

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You will be able to complete a

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questionnaire or attend live sessions to

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get these points. So you can grow

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professionally while helping to create a

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fairer world. But I

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also have something extra for anyone who

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is not a healthcare professional who is

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just looking to make a difference in

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their own mental health or their

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community. Now

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let me just say that there will never be

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any third party ads on intersectional

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psychology, which is great because

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it means that you can be sure all the

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mental health information shared here is

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free from corporate influence and bias.

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However, it also means that this

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podcast is only made possible by

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you, the listener. So

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discussions, and more.

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So if you’re a mental health professional

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who cares about social justice?

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Or someone looking to make meaningful

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changes in your mental health and

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community. Join me on intersectional

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psychology. In

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challenging times like these, as

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injustice persists globally,

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Doctor King’s words offer guidance and

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hope. Let’s create

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a fairer, healthier world together

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because everyone deserves good mental

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health.

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